tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post8733690218189552529..comments2024-02-16T02:12:08.305-08:00Comments on Fire Jay Mariotti: Post Number One Thousand Billion Million About Bill Simmons Being A Piece Of ShitLarry Bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16141943214237719821noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-40270423654667532222008-02-01T23:34:00.000-08:002008-02-01T23:34:00.000-08:00All you need to know about Victory was that it sta...All you need to know about Victory was that it starred Sylvester Stallone as a soccer player. (rolling eyes)Jonah Falconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00306985848851406148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-80857597136829477152007-12-21T13:14:00.000-08:002007-12-21T13:14:00.000-08:00Thank God someone wrote this. When I read this Si...Thank God someone wrote this. When I read this Simmons column, I felt like I couldn't breathe. As he recounts the officiating, I remember thinking to myself: Does this lunatic think he can change reality by making shit up and typing it into his computer? Simmons has gone from being hilarious to entertaining to repetitive to annoying to downright despicable. So, thank you... I can breathe again.<BR/><BR/>Patrick MageeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-5905130021461904582007-11-23T06:12:00.000-08:002007-11-23T06:12:00.000-08:00Don't you get it? Simmons isn't being serious, he...Don't you get it? Simmons isn't being serious, he's just making fun of Patriot fans. If you read the column in question as if it were serious, it doesn't make any sense. So clearly, he's just spoofing how Bellichek's paranoia has taken over the NE fan base. It's a pretty brilliant article and I think the reference to the obscure movie is just part of the satire. The fact that he writes for ESPN makes it perfect. Now we just need a column about how MLB tried to stop the Red Sox from winning the world series but they won anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-29307564373461242862007-11-14T11:48:00.000-08:002007-11-14T11:48:00.000-08:00Jeez,Some of you jokers are missing the point of t...Jeez,<BR/><BR/>Some of you jokers are missing the point of this article. Who cares about the Movie reference.<BR/><BR/>It's about the decline of a good columnist and his arrogant insistence and blind assessment re: the Pats/Colts game.<BR/><BR/>It was almost as bad as not writing an article about the Super Bowl. He just couldn't get over his homer-self to say, ya know what, not the best game but the Colts deserved it.<BR/><BR/>And I don't even like the Colts! I am a Browns fan.<BR/><BR/>He should be writing for the Boston Globe at this point...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00661617036768112206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-73578358604714818352007-11-14T10:11:00.000-08:002007-11-14T10:11:00.000-08:00"1) Referencing movies from 26 years ago that no o..."1) Referencing movies from 26 years ago that no one younger than 40 has seen is not cool"<BR/><BR/>- Really? that's not open to interpretation? No matter if you say it or not, the meaning behind what you write (or can be inferred) is that you can use your list to compare any seemingly obscure reference from a column and if it meets the test of your list then its dumb. You really are doing exactly what you hate Simmons for doing. <BR/><BR/>jf - Taking an (un)educated guess on the percent of fans who have seen victory isnt making up facts. Saying No one under the age of 25 has seen it and use that statement as the basis for a column is. I dont see any "wild" claim I have made, I just disagree with the author nothing more nothing less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-35351502450206849532007-11-14T07:12:00.000-08:002007-11-14T07:12:00.000-08:00Look: I'll say it again.I've never even HEARD of v...Look: I'll say it again.<BR/><BR/>I've never even HEARD of victory. <BR/><BR/>It's not like I've heard of the plot of victory but never knew the movie's name and now i'm like OH that's victory!<BR/><BR/>It's not like I knew there was a Michael Caine movie where he was a soccer player but never knew that it was called victory.<BR/><BR/>It's not like I've ever heard someone talking about soccer movies or a movie called victory and now I know that that's the soccer movie Victory they're talking about.<BR/><BR/>I've NEVER ONCE heard anyone even BREATHE a fucking whisper about victory. If in fact Victory was a movie of any renown, this situation (that I've never even heard of the movie) would be unlikely for a number of reasons<BR/><BR/>1.) I watch a lot of movies<BR/>2.) I was a film major in college and watched a lot of movies<BR/>3.) I have been watching HBO and so forth since I was like 12<BR/>4.) I hang out with a bunch of people who like really bad and obscure movies <BR/>5.) since I'm in grad school a lot of my friends are in their late 20's early 30's so I have a wide range of age groups to choose from.<BR/><BR/>This is essentially like reading Chuck Klosterman and seeing him go on and on about how relevant Ratt is. No Chuck, no one younger than 25 has really heard Ratt, Ratt hasn't touched their life. Maybe if you grew up in the 80's, you listened to Ratt, but once 1989 became 1990, Ratt stopped being relevant. And the thing is: Ratt was probably about 20 times as popular in their heyday than the movie Victory was.<BR/><BR/>Victory is a stupid reference. Why no reference "Semi-Tough" or something like that. Or THE PROGRAM. Remember that fucking movie?<BR/><BR/>No? Neither do I except that it existed and that some kid got hit by a car b/c of it.<BR/><BR/>Or BLUE CHIPS!!!! LOL! NICK NOLTE!Chris Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12152452626681072765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-9360294769978511932007-11-14T06:57:00.000-08:002007-11-14T06:57:00.000-08:00anon: "making things up is bad"*pause*anon:"i'd gu...anon: "making things up is bad"<BR/><BR/>*pause*<BR/><BR/>anon:"i'd guess, ummm, 50% or more sports fans have seen victory"<BR/><BR/>but wait, didnt you... isn't making up and guessing... ehh, nevermind<BR/><BR/>and say it with me this time:<BR/><BR/>well done<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>hmmm, making random wild claims with no factual evidence... has seen victory... poorly supports his points through shitty writing.... contradicts himself often... if anon keeps this up and says he knew oden would suck because he saw how he walked at the VMAs or some shit while hanging out with JIMMY KIMMELLLLLL (you know he used to work for jimmy, and he watches football with him!) then i don't think it would be too much of a stretch to assume anon and the sports guy are one and the sameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-50366950140236661822007-11-13T23:03:00.000-08:002007-11-13T23:03:00.000-08:00Also, those box office numbers need to be adjusted...<B>Also, those box office numbers need to be adjusted for inflation since Godfather came out 8 years earlier.</B><BR/><BR/>Nah, a bunch of that moolah is from 1997 when godfather was released in theatres. Plus no need to make 3 inflation calculations to prove that the godfather is like a billion times more popular/noteworthy than mother-fucking "victory"erizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17086572927569320685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-51801451559245637452007-11-13T20:51:00.000-08:002007-11-13T20:51:00.000-08:00Thanks Andy. Keep reading.anon- I'm only going to...Thanks Andy. Keep reading.<BR/><BR/>anon- I'm only going to go over this one more time. Bill made up a list that he purports to use in any situation to determine whether officiating is biased or not. (How convenient! In his view, all his points but one fit perfectly with the Pats/Colts game!) I made up a list that I purport to use in order to point out Bill was being stupid in that one exact situation. His list is intended for universal use, even though it's widely open to interpretation. My list is intended for use in this one exact situation, and is much less open to interpretation.<BR/><BR/>Should I explain this while using Nazism as part of an analogy? Would that help clear things up?larry bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13646537145612677810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-69851835587418471362007-11-13T20:35:00.000-08:002007-11-13T20:35:00.000-08:00First of all, not that it really matters, but I'm ...First of all, not that it really matters, but I'm 25 and had never heard of the movie victory.<BR/><BR/>Second of all...thank you very much. I rarely get riled up by simmons anymore, because I know he's really not worth it, but I just saw the tagline on the worldwide leader's front page and started steaming enough to read (half) of the tripe he called an article. I hadn't read the whole thing until I saw it here. Thank you again. I had many of the same thoughts, but you guys are so much more eloquent/funny about it. I need to move back into my parents' basement so I can learn to do this too. Keep it upAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-57291331801058047582007-11-13T19:43:00.000-08:002007-11-13T19:43:00.000-08:00"Not all lists are bad. Just made up lists, comple..."Not all lists are bad. Just made up lists, completely tailored to one's very subjective viewpoint of a situation, that are supposed to objectively prove that a certain sitation is occurring." <BR/><BR/>- Thats exactly what your list is, the B.O. mean nothing, and neither do DVD sales. The point is, it is a known sports movie (I would guess more than 50%) sports fans would understand (not just the few people commenting here) and it helped make his point whether you agree or not. Your list does the exact same thing his does, its made-up and tailored to fit your subjective viewpoint.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-66631356348444395722007-11-13T18:17:00.001-08:002007-11-13T18:17:00.001-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.larry bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13646537145612677810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-71334649539304269502007-11-13T18:17:00.000-08:002007-11-13T18:17:00.000-08:00Also, anonymous guy who I'm sparring with here: th...Also, anonymous guy who I'm sparring with here: there's a difference between Bill's list and mine. Mine is just a general list about what people should think about his referencing of "Victory." His is an unofficial checklist to confirm that a certain situation (fradulent officiating) is happening. Again with the straw man. Not all lists are bad. Just made up lists, completely tailored to one's very subjective viewpoint of a situation, that are supposed to objectively prove that a certain sitation is occurring.<BR/><BR/>As Chris W would say, sheeshlarry bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13646537145612677810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-42093421372307029832007-11-13T18:14:00.000-08:002007-11-13T18:14:00.000-08:00Thanks all for the encouragement. Please keep rea...Thanks all for the encouragement. Please keep reading. <BR/><BR/>Eriz- <BR/>Godfather Trilogy's rank in DVD sales on amazon.com: #150<BR/>Victory's rank: #2,976<BR/><BR/>Also, those box office numbers need to be adjusted for inflation since Godfather came out 8 years earlier.<BR/><BR/>Jones-<BR/>I love you because you're a regular commenter, but I'm staying firm on my stance about the complete obscurity of "Victory." Also, honestly, do you even have to ask where I was born? Obviously, in the very basement which I currently call home! Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhlarry bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13646537145612677810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-24756579315766109722007-11-13T17:30:00.001-08:002007-11-13T17:30:00.001-08:00Larry - One other thing I think you missed, that r...Larry - <BR/><BR/>One other thing I think you missed, that really angered me. Take a look at the "you can't rank one fishy contest" paragraph again. He throws in the Parish haymaker as the token "hey, Boston gets away with stuff too, see, I'M SO UNBIASED" example. Except he picked Parish's knockout of the dirtiest player in the league, a blow that pretty much every non-Piston fan was happy to see. It's a subtle little "yeah, but hey, Boston sports teams, even when they get away with stuff, it's really all for the greater good." (What, no mention of the last time a Boston team got <A HREF="http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2003/09/20/gillicks_accusations_hit_home/" REL="nofollow">caught with a camera in an odd place</A>?<BR/><BR/>The reason why Simmons is justifiably hated is because he's a niche sportswriter given top billing on the USA's most watched sports network's website. If he wants to be the Boston Sports Guy, he's welcome to do so, but please try to leave the rest of us out it - your little New England circlejerk is an unwelcome site to much of the rest of the nation.<BR/><BR/>Good Lord, I actually used to enjoy seeing the Patriots succeed - now I feel sick every time they win, solely because of this moron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-63353839133596270082007-11-13T15:57:00.000-08:002007-11-13T15:57:00.000-08:00Best you have done so far Larry. When I originall...Best you have done so far Larry. When I originally read that article I couldn't finish it, it was just awful. I was big fan of Simmons from about 02-06, then as the Boston area teams got better, he got worse, and worse, and worse. Simply unreadable now. I will now only read him through you! Keep it up!Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17911546348926892846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-71340023820840826702007-11-13T14:57:00.000-08:002007-11-13T14:57:00.000-08:00Larry,I want to thank you for taking the time to p...Larry,<BR/><BR/>I want to thank you for taking the time to post this SG rebuttal. He is getting into the offensively bad territory.<BR/><BR/>I have been an avid reader of his since his entry to Page 2. I used to be so excited when a new story link popped up.<BR/><BR/>Now, he just gets me agry with his homer-ism and badly constructed articles. He stinks these days and I am glad you are there to be the voice of a lot of peeps out there.<BR/><BR/>Someone has to say it...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00661617036768112206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-68271455377518804022007-11-13T14:29:00.000-08:002007-11-13T14:29:00.000-08:00"Victory"Total US Gross:$10.8 Million"The Godfathe..."Victory"<BR/><BR/>Total US Gross:<BR/><BR/>$10.8 Million<BR/><BR/>"The Godfather"<BR/><BR/>Total US Gross:<BR/><BR/>$134.9 Millionerizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17086572927569320685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-34277364611080701632007-11-13T13:30:00.000-08:002007-11-13T13:30:00.000-08:00Im not comparing Victory to Godfather from a quali...Im not comparing Victory to Godfather from a quality perspective, but making the point that just because you have not seen the movie he references does not make it a poor analogy. I have seen the movie and am under 40. I cant then say well everyone has seen it, just as since you havent seen it you cant say no one has seen it. You still make the same sort of dumb list he does in your "Critique" of Simmons. <BR/><BR/>Although credit where credit is due. You are trying VERY hard with site. Nice effort.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-82183407450526858822007-11-13T13:28:00.000-08:002007-11-13T13:28:00.000-08:00Larry - were you born and raised in a meat freezer...Larry - were you born and raised in a meat freezer? Billions of people have seen "Victory". It sucks, but huge numbers of people have seen it mainly because it ran 23 times a week on HBO for about 12 years from 1987 forward.<BR/><BR/>"Why is this person talking about 'Star Wars', who's seen this crazy 'Star Wars' thing?"<BR/><BR/>anonymous - your employment status has nothing to do with anything. People comment on various things because it's enjoyable for them to do so; other people enjoy reading these comments. <BR/><BR/>This is pretty much what the Internet was invented for.<BR/><BR/>If you don't like it, build your own Internet, I guess.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-73324557888563680142007-11-13T13:18:00.000-08:002007-11-13T13:18:00.000-08:00Chris- Yeah. I was living a lie. The last time I...Chris- Yeah. I was living a lie. The last time I genuinely liked Simmons was probably 2003. You saw right through me... you always do.larry bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13646537145612677810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-61013342283115432312007-11-13T13:12:00.000-08:002007-11-13T13:12:00.000-08:00Larry--whatever happened to the way you used to po...Larry--<BR/><BR/>whatever happened to the way you used to post about Simmons.<BR/><BR/>You know "I really like Simmons when he's not writing about the Celtics, I mean he's a really excellent writer--he definitely does have talent..it's just--"<BR/><BR/>did you realize that the Simmons fanboys weren't buying it?<BR/><BR/>Or did you just get tired of living the lie?Chris Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12152452626681072765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-58175203906347777692007-11-13T13:10:00.000-08:002007-11-13T13:10:00.000-08:00To my fellow anom, I'm going to nitpick here, but ...To my fellow anom, I'm going to nitpick here, but are you seriously comparing Victory to the Godfather? Maybe you should reread Larry b's list, the criteria was mentioning a movie 26yrs old that no one under 40 has seen. See that's part of what makes the Godfather a classic, it stands up to the test of time while Victory is a movie no one under the age 40 has seen. Just saying. <BR/><BR/>As for Simmons, his niche is Boston which is a problem since he writes for a National audience. He's actually made me hate the Celtics. I didn't think it was possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-87824272214183048452007-11-13T13:06:00.000-08:002007-11-13T13:06:00.000-08:00I admit yes I am nitpicking as well. But the diffe...<B>I admit yes I am nitpicking as well. But the difference is I have a job</B><BR/><BR/>So do I! What are the odds we'd have something in common? Weird.<BR/><BR/><B>I would say though, before attacking one of Simmons (Made up) lists, you should consider the one you made after not making a real point about Victory being a lame analogy in his column. I suppose the Godfather sucks to you cause it was made in the 70's and you could say "No one" has seen it?</B><BR/><BR/>You're trying so hard, and I really respect that. But what you're doing here is called "creating a straw man." I didn't say no one has seen "Victory" because it's old. I say no one has seen "Victory" because no one has seen it, and that it also happens to be old. It sounds like a 26 year old version of "Glory Road" or "We Are Marshall." Inspirational sports movie based on a true story, blah blah blah. Will anyone be talking about either of those movies in 2033? Pretty unlikely. Obviously "The Godfather" falls into a slightly different category.<BR/><BR/>Like I was saying, though, good effort. You're trying sooooo hard.larry bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13646537145612677810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-69101692618700193512007-11-13T12:21:00.000-08:002007-11-13T12:21:00.000-08:00Sorry, but I choose not to create a login. I admit...Sorry, but I choose not to create a login. <BR/><BR/>I admit yes I am nitpicking as well. But the difference is I have a job and dont have the time to create a webpage and copy the text of a bloggers comments commenting on a columnist. <BR/><BR/>I would say though, before attacking one of Simmons (Made up) lists, you should consider the one you made after not making a real point about Victory being a lame analogy in his column. I suppose the Godfather sucks to you cause it was made in the 70's and you could say "No one" has seen it?<BR/><BR/>Bash Mariotti all you want, you could argue he reports news, but Simmons is a humor columnist with a niche in the Northeast and nothing more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com