tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post8417163402940616431..comments2024-02-16T02:12:08.305-08:00Comments on Fire Jay Mariotti: Kyle Orton = Winner, Jay Cutler = Loser, Clark Judge = DipshitLarry Bhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16141943214237719821noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-7792276215234530632009-04-11T20:18:00.000-07:002009-04-11T20:18:00.000-07:00What about Orton's "look in his eyes?" Did anyone ...What about Orton's "look in his eyes?" Did anyone get a look at those before they traded him? I suspect you can learn about his leadership by reading the eyes. The eyes.Alexhttp://intersportswire.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-62522168421945968242009-04-09T11:13:00.000-07:002009-04-09T11:13:00.000-07:00agreed w/ anonymous. fantastic bloggage!agreed w/ anonymous. fantastic bloggage!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10278579772195875288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-46320977949769285132009-04-08T21:47:00.000-07:002009-04-08T21:47:00.000-07:00Larry B, welcome back to excellent writing and wit...Larry B, welcome back to excellent writing and wity thrashing of a shitty writer. It's been awhileAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-55091443744992090252009-04-08T15:37:00.000-07:002009-04-08T15:37:00.000-07:00Everyone probably thinks Orton is "gritty" because...Everyone probably thinks Orton is "gritty" because one time they saw him get hit hard by a linebacker and he got up. Because god knows that QB's snap like twigs every time they get hit.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11241266695080703685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-21626213100997634762009-04-08T06:22:00.000-07:002009-04-08T06:22:00.000-07:00Martin - What do you mean the NFC isn't that good?...Martin - What do you mean the NFC isn't that good? Don't you know who the NFC sent to the Super Bowl last year?Jarretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11590314117863824022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-61235212729750677652009-04-07T16:09:00.000-07:002009-04-07T16:09:00.000-07:00Absolutly Chris. Nobody had to respect the deep ba...Absolutly Chris. Nobody had to respect the deep ball against the Bears because that wasn't a play Orton could make, where as the deep ball was the only thing they had to worry about with Sexy Rexy in there. In my view, the Bears need a receiver, an O lineman, and I'd reload the defense, then go back after more offense next year. The NFC isn't that good, getting to the playoffs anything can happen, and once a team is in the Super Bowl, you only need to win once. I lvoed the run the Cards took this year, but seriously, they weren't in the top 10 teams in the league. Cutler makes the Bears an immediate Super Bowl threat, in my opinion.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086638597582394978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-59262006616202187292009-04-07T15:22:00.000-07:002009-04-07T15:22:00.000-07:00Martin:I think you're GENERALLY right but if you r...Martin:<BR/><BR/>I think you're GENERALLY right but if you remember--Ron Turner has about 3 plays:<BR/><BR/>--Run off tackle<BR/>--Pass to the flats<BR/>--Throw deep to the skinny post up the middle. Real deep. No. Longer. Keep going. Deep.<BR/><BR/>Orton was just a fucking slug at throwing deep. There were myriad times when Hester would be wide open downfield and Orton would over/under/sideways throw him.<BR/><BR/>If you remember, when Grossman and Berrian were on the team they used to connect maybe once every 2 games on a 60 yard skinny post. Now, Grossman sucked at everything else, so he wasn't a viable option (as much as that pains me to admit). Cutler, on the other hand, has the capability to manage flat routes AND throw deep.<BR/><BR/>This doesn't mean the Bears will have a good offense, nor does it mean that Ron Turner is anything but the worst OC in the league (because he is. The worst offensive coordinator in the league. Ron Turner, that is). But it does mean that Cutler will allow the Bears to be more viable offensively in a way that Orton and Grossman most assuredly did not.Chris Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12152452626681072765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-40778666877382110152009-04-07T15:18:00.000-07:002009-04-07T15:18:00.000-07:00The thing is, I have no idea where people get the ...The thing is, I have no idea where people get the idea that Orton is "gritty". He's not tough at all, he doesn't "hustle" and he's actually got a lot of talent that he just, essentially, wasted after getting upended by the BadgersChris Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12152452626681072765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-88291482525426265122009-04-07T13:09:00.000-07:002009-04-07T13:09:00.000-07:00I think that's the part that people seem to miss. ...I think that's the part that people seem to miss. Cutler gives a team with a good running attack a QB with a good arm who can keep a defense on its toes. In other words, a very good complement to a good running game!<BR/><BR/>Denver gets Orton, who eats grit and shits... grit. And is also gritty. Grit grit gritty mcgritson.<BR/><BR/>Actually, Denver gets three high draft picks. And Kyle Gritstein. Grit.Tonushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01082528970434639776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-40702435925289437912009-04-07T12:40:00.000-07:002009-04-07T12:40:00.000-07:00I liked the part where he said that the Bears don'...I liked the part where he said that the Bears don't have a "franchise wide receiver" (is there such a thing?) and then says he wishes the Bears had kept the draft picks and picked....a cornerback and o lineman. So in otherwords....they still wouldn't have a good wide receiver. <BR/><BR/>I've seen a couple articles like this, and hear a lot from the radio talking heads, but my question becomes, why don't they think that Cutler can play as badly as Orton in Chicago? They all seem to think that now Cutler is there that he's running the offense or something. The Bears are suddenly going to throw the ball 618 times a season? The offense is going to become Al Davis Verticle Game? I know it's not a great example, but I expect the Bears to use Cutler sort of like the Cowboys used Aikmen. Be a running team that passed a lot to the tight end and backs and went for the dagger to the heart every once in awhile. The Bears are not going to turn into Texas Tech for god's sake.<BR/><BR/>I think both teams did well. Two first round picks is a good price for a franchise type QB. Teams spend one all the time merely hoping the guy turns out right (see Young, V. and Leinart, M.) so two isn't unreasonable. I just want to see what the Broncos look like with Orton throwing the ball 600 times.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00086638597582394978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-19126708540986804442009-04-07T12:23:00.000-07:002009-04-07T12:23:00.000-07:00You could say theoretically that Cutler's high INT...You could say theoretically that Cutler's high INT count kept his defense on the field and tired them out to the point where they were less effective.<BR/><BR/>But then I'd guess you'd have to say the same about Orton's constant stream of 3 and outs and missed passes to wide-open downfield receivers.Chris Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12152452626681072765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-12779506730977716072009-04-07T11:31:00.000-07:002009-04-07T11:31:00.000-07:00Remember, the most important quality in any NFL QB...Remember, the most important quality in any NFL QB is his ability to make his defense play really really well.Tonushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01082528970434639776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6300012139741038635.post-36000777225754301512009-04-07T11:13:00.000-07:002009-04-07T11:13:00.000-07:00Venus De Milo -- No arm(s). Mmmm, gummy Venus. Swe...Venus De Milo -- No arm(s). Mmmm, gummy Venus. Sweet, sweet can.The Bardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08865691516095043519noreply@blogger.com